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The Author Of Tides Of Lightoffers His Nebula Award Winning SF Classic A Combination Of Hard Science, Bold Speculation, And Human Drama In The Year , A Group Of Scientists Works Desperately To Communicate With The Scientists Of , Warning Of An Ecological Disaster That Will Destroy The Oceans In The Future If It Is Not Averted In The Past

10 thoughts on “Timescape

  1. says:

    The Coolness This book won the Nebula in 1980 Pretty cool for it and the author, Gregory Benford It would have been nice for Hilary Foister to share in the credit, though, considering she supposedly co wrote this with Benford It deals with tachyons once in a while It works well as a mild sedative.The Meh ness There are some cool bits of forward thinking in this book, although none of them are truly prophetic, and they needed to be if they were going to be better than average Benford and Foister project some terrorism in New York which is a bit like a Sci Fi writer suggesting that someday the Boston Red Sox would once again win the World Series , some ecological disaster, some biological disaster, some poverty and some hunger Wow That s bravely walking the plank, isn t it This book receives much praise for its strong characterization, but I ve always felt that strong characterization requires than just time spent with the characters it also requires a thorough understanding of at least one character s depths and shallows We need to get inside a character and really experience the meat of him her Not so here We meet quite a few characters, mostly men, spending a lot of time with Ian Peterson a womanizing English gentleman , John Renfrew a whiny physicist from England of the nineties , and Gordon Bernstein a whiny physicist from the US of the sixties , but I never felt like I knew any of them well, nor did I want to get to know them any better If this really is the strongest aspect of Timescape, it is a fine example of why this book deserves no accolades.The Crapness There is no way in hell this book deserved the Nebula award in 1980 or any other time How it beat books like Joan D Vinge s The Snow Queen or Walter Tevis Mockingbird I will never understand This book was barely Sci Fi, and I think I would have appreciated it far if the clever little time messaging business had been taken out completely A novel about Scientific competition in the sixties would have been good enough for me, and it was the story Benford and Foister were telling anyway, and I wouldn t have spent the bulk of the novel hoping for the Sci Fi elements that never came Sadly, the cool bits of forward thinking were matched by some clangers The authors imagined a late 20th century world where all the movie theatres were closing down out of disinterest, a world where photographic film was strictly rationed and no digital cameras were invented to pick up the slack which wouldn t have been a problem if it weren t for the fact that the tachyon messenger was sending what amounted to digital images , a world where a woman being a housewife was expected by everyone everywhere, which leads me too The portrayal of women in this book annoyed me constantly It wasn t that Benford not to mention his ghostly partner because he didn t, after all was misogynistic I didn t sense any hatred of women in his writing What was clearly present, however, was the cloistered attitude of an academic in a field that in the Eighties kept women firmly out of its ranks It is the writing of a man out of touch with the changing social conventions of his day, which translated into an inability to foresee the way social conventions would be formed seventeen years later Benford s downfall is a lazy acceptance of patriarchy and a lack of imagination for past, present, and future gender roles The authors sickening defence of those three unassailable pillars of benevolence England, the USA and the educated middle class Puke, puke, puke Racism towards the whole of South America, with special attention given to Brazil and Argentina The bulk of the ecological blame falls to Brazil for their destruction of the rainforests, but there is no mention, anywhere in the book, of the worldwide market forces that must motivate such destruction Page 413 414 of my copy which I received as a bookmooch are missing It looks like someone took an Xacto knife to the page, and I am dying to know why and what the hell I am missing If any of you have a copy of this book, I would appreciate a photocopy of the pages so I can read them and add them to my copy I suppose it s not a big deal, though, since the book was far from impressive Finally JFK survives And there was definitely only one shooter Whew.

  2. says:

    One of the earliest Hard science fiction novel that I have read A mind blowing for a simple reader who just thought faster than light concept was it was moving very fast A solid gold five star book in idea side.I have read some of author s short stories, and failed read one of his Galactic Center novel Even with all that negative experience, I could finish read this book The plot and storytelling is slow, as if confirmed my low expectation before reading this book But you should read this book because the idea That s one reason I read SF novels.

  3. says:

    Timescape Intimate but slow moving story about scientistsOriginally published at Fantasy LiteratureTimescape 1980 has been on my TBR list for 35 years, and I ve long wanted to read the work of physicist Gregory Benford The book won the Nebula Award, and it deals with time paradoxes, which I find fascinating but invariably unconvincing First off, most of the book s considerable length is devoted to a slow moving and detailed portrait of scientists mostly physicists, but also some biologists and astronomers at work in the lab as well as their personal relationships with colleagues and wives girlfriends So to describe this as a techno thriller would be inaccurate At the same time, Benford spends a lot time on character development than most hard science fiction In the end I had mixed feeling about this book It was interesting at times but too slow moving to generate much excitement.The book is set in two time periods the first is 1962 in La Jolla, CA at UC San Diego, where physicist ordon Bernstein and his graduate assistant Albert Cooper discover mysterious interference in their experiments on spontaneous resonance relating to indium Over time, they realize that the noise can actually be decoded using Morse code into scattered fragments of messages relating to chemical formulas and star coordinates, etc Further, they begin to suspect that these messages are coming from the future, delivered by tachyons due to their ability to travel faster than light and move backwards in time.The second narrative takes place in 1998 at Cambridge University, where the world is suffering from various forms of ecological collapse, particularly an algae bloom that is destroying the biodiversity of the world s oceans Two scientists, Englishman John Renfrew and American Gregory Markham, lead a team that is urgently trying to use tachyons to send warnings back to the physicists of 1962 to head off the environmental collapse that will occur in the intervening decades.Given the premise, you might reasonably expect the story to be a nail biting thriller in which the scientists of the future are racing against time to send back messages sufficient to convince the scientists of 1962 that they are really from the future, not a hoax or communications from aliens, and provide enough data that these scientists of the past can mobilize the world to stave off future disaster But instead Timescape takes its time showing us all the minutiae of the scientists lives, particularly those in 1962 their daily experimental routines, rivalries with colleagues, dissertation committees, worries about promotion to tenure track positions, exercise regimes, etc Gordon even has to fend off his Jewish mother back in NY who doesn t want her precious son to marry a sexually liberated goyim girl from CA One thing to note is that scientists world of 1962 is dominated by men, with the women almost exclusively playing second fiddle as wives or girlfriends So if you are bothered by that, even though it may be an accurate portrait of the times, keep that in mind It got on my nerves a bit.It s fairly obvious early on that Benford, an Emeritus Professor of Physics at UC Irvine specializing in plasma physics and astrophysics including wormholes and galactic jets, is injecting much of his own experiences as a physics graduate student at UCSD into the characters of Timescape There s certainly nothing wrong with drawing on your own life experiences to write a novel, since you know this world intimately But you do have to be careful just how much to commit to paper and how to balance this with the proper pacing and not harming the plot Personally, I thought there was way too much time spent on this part of the story, and cutting this down by 100 150 pages would have improved the pacing dramatically.The other problem I had was the central scientific concept of using tachyons to communicate with the past Since it involves calculating where the Earth would have been positioned in 1962 and shooting a stream of tachyons in that direction that was my faulty understanding, at least , the message is garbled and in fragments But strangely, the messages are focused almost exclusively on describing the environmental and ecological problems of the future, including detailed chemical formulas, rather than providing details to convince the 1962 scientists that these messages are really from the future So much of the middle portion of the book is spent on the 1962 scientists at UCSD arguing about whether the messages are coming from secret military communications, the Russians, extra terrestrials, etc Why not just spell it out from the beginning and save a huge amount of time Though I didn t fully understand it, apparently the future scientists were attempting to avoid spelling out exactly their identity and intentions to avoid the time paradox of having the 1962 scientists correctly understand the messages, inform the world of the danger, and take actions to prevent ecological collapse, thus negating the future in which the messages were sent from This is a classic time travel paradox, known as the grandfather paradox, which asks what would happen if you went back in time and killed your grandfather would you instantly disappear Or is this impossible Instead, if they can provide just enough data to encourage the past scientists to take actions to avoid future disaster but not enough to erase the future timeline of the messages, they can avoid the paradox by creating a new alternative and better timeline It s enough to twist your brain into a Moebius strip, which is what time travel stories should do But I just couldn t really make sense of this particular idea It comes from the many worlds theory of quantum physics, with the idea that alternative universes are continually being created in infinite variations, and in Timescape the scientists were trying to direct this process These ideas were explained with greater clarity in Greg Egan s Quarantine.I listened to the audiobook produced by Recorded Books, and they went the extra mile by using two narrators, Englishman Simon Prebble for the Cambridge scientists of 1998, and American Pete Bradbury for the UCSD scientists of 1962 It s a nice way to distinguish between the two narrative streams, since you can immediately recognize them by the alternating accents, which is very helpful for audio readers I thought they both did excellent work, and any failing are due to the turgid pace of the story.

  4. says:

    It s interesting to read the mixed reviews on this book Surprising that of those who liked it many felt it was long, dense, too much detail, too much science, or science that was hard to understand Oddly, my recollection of reading it multiple times back when it first came out was that both the writing and plot development were remarkably elegant and spare And that surely is one reason it won the Nebula There was just enough science in my view, described as was fitting for the advancement of the plot since key plot lines in the future and the past revolved around understanding what was possible and what it meant I was gripped by the desperate and uncertain efforts to communicate something to the past that might prevent the ecological disaster in the present And, by the slow, uncertain process of discovery, efforts to interpret and understand and finally communicate its import the slow poignant unraveling of the truth Benford s evocations of past and future academic settings was dead on and sobering to those of us who ve worked in those environments as I was when I read the book Characterizations were PERFECT, deeply human without a scrap of unnecessary detail You felt equally for the people who cared and thought deeply and for those who had lost their way following their ambitions in a fatally materialistic world Today we face multiple potentially world killing ecological causal chains, and have the processing ability to tease them out and predict their outcomes much accurately and chillingly then back in 1980 when this book was first published And that makes it particularly compelling for me now because what might have seemed like deep cynicism about human culture and society and technology back then now seems especially prescient I definitely want to read it again.

  5. says:

    For about the first 150 pages, I considered DNFing this novel But it slowly picked up While I still think the novel is too long by at least 100 pages, due to detailed descriptions of building architecture and what characters had for dinner I ended up giving it 3 1 2 stars The story came together, becoming quite interesting, and by the end, was exploring the possibility probability of a view spoiler multiverse hide spoiler

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    De lo interesante desde la perspectiva de g nero y pero no as desde lo estrictamente literario G nero Ciencia ficci n.Lo que nos cuenta El desastre medioambiental es la principal amenaza para la humanidad en 1998 Un f sico de Cambridge, John Renfrew, demuestra que es capaz de enviar un mensaje al pasado usando la ciencia y propone avisar, en lugar y forma adecuados a la nica naturaleza posible del mensaje, para que pongan los medios necesarios y eviten la situaci n catastr fica En 1963 y en California, el profesor Gordon Bernstein est molesto por una fuente de ruido no identificada en su experimento de resonancia nuclear Su investigaci n sobre el origen del mismo, con la intenci n de continuar con su trabajo, le revelar que es mucho m s que una interferencia es un mensaje Quiere saber m s de este libro, sin spoilers Visite

  7. says:

    Lots of potential but never realized Too wordy with unintelligable technical jargon I hated the end, though it was probably realistic than another scenario.This is the first and only time I ever threw a book in the garbage after reading it I just couldn t inflict anyone I know with it.

  8. says:

    Timescape is both a fascinating, hard SF book about sending messages backwards through time to save the world and a dull soap opera The premise is that the world is on the brink of total ecological disaster in 1998, because of the overuse of pesticides Scientists have discovered how to use tachyons to send a message to the past, with a warning and pointers on how to avoid the catastrophe The messages are received by a lone scientist in 1963.The SF portions of the book are really well done There are tons of scientific explanations of the tachyons, time paradoxes, etc., which I found mostly fascinating A bit above my head at times, but fascinating And the inside look at academia, research, and funding was way interesting to read than I thought it would be.However Much of the book is taken up with the personal lives of the scientists involved This is where the dull soap opera comes in For the most part, these characters just aren t leading terribly interested lives, but they re treated as though they are The lovingly detailed scene of the 1963 scientist walking in on his girlfriend in the bathroom, for example Most of the characters are thoroughly unlikeable on top of that, especially the womanizing Peterson Which brings me to the part women play in the book They are sexual conquests, housewives, and helpers to men There are a few female scientists, but they aren t allowed to actually do anything on the page This is somewhat understandable in 1963, far less so in 1998 I d even give that a bit of a pass as a product of its time, but this book was written in 1980, not 1960 One last thing The messages being sent back in time are meant to give scientists a head start on the pesticide problem What they actually do is prevent the Kennedy assassination The chain of events here is than a little forced, and it s never actually explained why that made a difference.

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    Okay, this was not for me.The good part was the idea and the scientific approach It was apparent that the time travel ideas were founded on solid physics science of the time of the writing and not some timey wimey stuff to help the plot.Yet the fascination of the author with the medium turned the scientific parts or less into lectures that did not help to build an exciting or thrilling plot which the idea of the narrative would have been wonderful for.Most of the time the actual SF plot was interrupted by personal chapters scenes of several male scientists, apparently all in some kind of midlife crisis and their wives, who especially in the future parts of the book all did housewifery things That irked me so much, that I started skipping passages from half point on What kind of future development of humankind is it, if a woman has problems, because her husband is never at home or cares for anything in the family and he gives her the advice to go to London and buy a new dress, whereupon she seemed to be happy again and told him he s a good man What Those 90ie passages the future in this book from the early 80ies were in no way distinguishable from the family feeling of the 60ies passages This was not only dated, this was archaic.

  10. says:

    This is a hard SF novel that won Nebula Award for 1980, which I ve read as a part of Monthly reads in Hugo Nebula Awards Best NovelsAs the title suggests, this book is about time travel However, unlike the previous stories on the subject it is less interested in adventures in the past future of time travelers there will be none but in actual physics, which theoretically allows sending information to the past by using tachyons theoretically possible particles that move faster than light There is a lot of physics discussion on why it can work and with what consequences, e.g how to evade time paradoxes.The novel was originally published in 1980 and two time periods are each 18 years from this date 1962 and 1998 In 1998 there is an environmental disaster caused by mankind and some increasingly rarer resources are directed to send a message to the past to prevent the calamity, while the world is falling apart The character cast includes English physicist John Renfrew, his housewife Marjorie, assistant theoretical physicist from the USA Markham and Peterson, a member of science committee , a powerful international group that tries to stop the disaster by any means They all get to tell their stories.In 1962 3, there is one major protagonist, Gordon Bernstein, a Jewish boy from NY, who works as an assistant professor in La Jolla, California His scientific studies are intertwined with academia intrigue , when other scientist don t want to believe his results and his personal life with his English major girlfriend Penny.This is a serious novel that should stimulate reader to think, not an easy read.