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The Historians Can T Seem To Settle Whether To Call This One The Third Space War Or The Fourth , Or Whether The First Interstellar War Fits It Better We Just Call It The Bug War Everything Up To Then And Still Later Were Incidents, Patrols, Or Police Actions However, You Are Just As Dead If You Buy The Farm In An Incident As You Are If You Buy It In A Declared WarIn One Of Robert A Heinlein S Most Controversial Bestsellers, A Recruit Of The Future Goes Through The Toughest Boot Camp In The Universe And Into Battle With The Terran Mobile Infantry Against Mankind S Most Alarming Enemy


10 thoughts on “Starship Troopers

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    My first impulse is to dismiss it as an appalling piece of militaristic propaganda, whose one saving grace is that it s at least much better than the movie But that wouldn t be doing the book justice With all its faults, I simply loved it as a 14 year old, and I m in no way alone there Why is it so fascinating Let me start by dismissing a couple of possible theories One reviewer wonders if it s deadpan satire I suppose, when you see some of Heinlein s later books Stranger in a Strange Land, 1961 I Will Fear No Evil, 1970 , you may get the idea that he s some kind of hippy New Age prophet, and that Starship Troopers is poking fun at the militaristic right I don t think that idea stands up to serious examination Many of Heinlein s early books extol militaristic right wing libertarian virtues Sixth Column 1949 is a particularly flagrant example From what I ve heard, the satire theory is in fact the reverse of the truth Stranger in a Strange Land was originally conceived as a satire Heinlein was surprised to see that people liked it and read it straight, and, flexible than he s often made out, he rewrote it that way and followed it up with a couple of similar books.Many people are taking Starship Troopers at face value, and appreciate how it presents the military in a positive light Well, there s clearly something to that But why does this book, as opposed to many others, do such a fantastic job of selling this particular point of view If you re a soldier yourself, I can see that Heinlein, also a soldier, can make you proud of what you re doing But my parents were strict believers in non violence, and I ve never had any contact with that world at all I still thought it was great.So, on mature consideration, here s another theory, which I claim relates better to Heinlein s oeuvre as a whole By the way, I m only saying oeuvre because I know it would annoy him One theme that he keeps returning to over and over again, in different forms, is the relationship between the self and the rest of the universe Heinlein s metaphysics were distinctly odd he wasn t sure that he liked the rest of the universe much, or even if it existed in the first place You can occasionally see this idea presented in a straightforward way In his short story They 1941 , it turns out that the paranoid main character is completely right about what s going on He s the most important person in the world everyone else, for reasons never revealed, is involved in a gigantic conspiracy against him, whose main purpose is to prevent him from discovering who he really is In The Unpleasant Profession of Jonathan Hoag 1942 , we find, again, that things truly aren t as they seem, and that all existence is illusory The world, we learn at the end, is a work of art, and can be changed at any moment Hoag is in fact an art critic, sent to judge us on aesthetic grounds And in the classic time travel story All You Zombies 1959 , the hero discovers that he s his own father and mother As he says, he knows where he came from but where did all you zombies come from The final paragraph gives us to understand that other people may not exist at all.As we see, Heinlein rather likes solipsism, which, when you come down to it, isn t as ridiculous a philosophical position as you might think Wittgenstein the solipsist is saying something sensible, but chooses an odd way to express it Heinlein has a strong sense of self, and wants to erect a barrier, as tangible as possible, between him and the rest of the world A powerful metaphor for this barrier, which he used many times, is the space suit Have Space Suit, Will Travel 1958 is not one of his best books, but the descriptions of what it s like to walk around in a space suit are quite good I remember them clearly, when most of the rest of the story has faded Similarly, Space Cadet 1948 , which I read at primary school, is hastily written and uninspired but again, the only scene I can recall clearly is the one where the teenage hero throws up in his space suit after inadvisedly drinking a mint julep I was so impressed by this that I didn t dare try a mint julep myself until I was in my mid 40s I hope you see where I m going What makes Starship Troopers so effective, I claim, is the space suit theme, which here is taken to its logical conclusion The Mobile Infantry Suit simultaneously cuts off its wearer from the rest of the world, and makes him almost invincible It s no coincidence that the stunning opening scene highlights the suit s amazing capabilities The hero is dropped directly from space onto a hostile planet, and spreads mayhem with his high tech weapons while jumping a mile at a time in his jet propelled boots all without needing to touch anything directly, or feel involved in the fates of the humanoid creatures he s killing by the hundred Fans of the book uniformly hated the movie for budget reasons, Verhoeven took out the suits, which were too complicated to render effectively After that, everything felt wrong The most important part of the imagery was missing As already noted, Heinlein wasn t writing a satire he appeared to believe in this stuff but I think he found a good way to dramatize what it means to be a member of the American military industrial complex The Suit gives its wearer superhuman technological powers, while excluding the rest of the world to the point where it barely exists at all And the power the Suit confers isn t just military, but also political and moral In Heinlein s world, one only becomes a full citizen after serving in the military I don t agree that this is a desirable way to organize a society, but Heinlein was describing what he saw in 1959, Eisenhower, a former general, was nearing the end of his second term, and would be succeeded by Kennedy, a decorated war hero Both were very popular.Now, of course, things have changed, and the military industrial complex is usually cast as the villain In Avatar, I couldn t help thinking that the robotic exoskeleton worn by the evil Colonel Quaritch in the final scene was rather like the Mobile Infantry Suit the Colonel s defeat, as many people have pointed out, can be read as predicting the impending defeat of American Imperialism at the hands of a resurgent Third World I do wonder what Heinlein would have made of that.


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    I first read this back in early high school, maybe 26 30 years ago, and over time my memory of the book had been diluted by memories of the film and by thoughts of a similar Hugo award winning novel, The Forever War by Joe Haldeman I m glad that I re visited this one, because in the 30 years since I first read it, I changed I became a husband and a father, and significant to my appreciation of this work, went to boot camp, OCS, and Iraq From this new perspective, I think I understand and value Heinlein s vision than I did before This is not at all about action, and fighting bugs, it is a study of a man s compulsion to fight and or serve his country, and a discussion about our society s, and any society s responsibility to its citizens and what is best for society Like many Heinlein novels, it works well on many levels, the surface science fiction, and then the deeper, complicated voice of the storyteller, speaking from his own experience.This is a controversial book Criticized for espousing a militaristic, maybe fascist ideal, Heinlein was also criticized from the other side for his own lack of combat experience This book inspires strong emotions At the end of the day, it was a fine book, another excellent, genre transcending work from Heinlein.


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    Starship Troopers is listed amongst the recommended books by the United States Air Force for a reason For those who plan on pursuing a military career, this book exhibits the very ideals upon which our current military standards are based Camaraderie, Sacrifice, and Responsibility are than mere words to the protagonist The distinction between a fighting man and a soldier is made The distinction between a superior rank and a true officer is made Johnny Rico is a soldier in than merely name, and the reader discovers this through this narrative.For those of you who have seen the film incarnation of this story, simply forget it It won t aid you in understanding or predicting the outcome of this book The tempo, messages, and level of seriousness are completely different Most of you know the pitfalls of watching the movie first, so I implore you to read this book before seeing the movie If you have already seen the movie, as I stated before, forget it.There is one thing I would mention that is perhaps the fault of this book Heinlein shapes a militaristic, possibly even oppressive society, out of the remaining nations on earth He touts the virtues of citizenry only being earned through dedicated service At the same time, he manages to skirt by some of the practical and realistic attitudes of people The society could very well work if it was implemented exactly in the fashion it is described in his novel, but the transition from our current societal structure to this system of government is EXTREMELY unlikely It takes the edge off of the bold concepts, making this book only a 4 star.To end on a positive note I ll say this When I finally finished this novel I had a brief spark inside of me For once in my entire career, I felt a sense of pride in being a soldier No military training, no officer, and certainly no civilian has ever made me feel as proud of my profession as that novel has.


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    I enjoyed this book greatly While I certainly can t be said to agree with Heinlein on every aspect of life, politics, or theologyI do appreciate where he s coming from in this book Remember it s a 1959 book, before the idiotic handling of Vietnam became apparent There are thought provoking ideas in this book even if it is considered a YA book Agree or disagree, it s a good read By the way, I must say this It s often actually often than not true that a movie doesn t live up to the book In this case that would be like saying the Atlantic Ocean isn t exactly like Death Valley If your only experience with Starship Troopers is the movie of that name, then you don t know anything about this book excepting the names of a few characters The characters in the movie don t resemble the characters in the book The universe and governmental structure in the movie doesn t resemble that of the book The main science fiction hook of the book isn t even present in the movie When you saw the movie some of you may have noticed a flaw in the soundtrack, a whirring noise That was Robert A Heinlein spinning in his grave at high speed The movie by the same name as this book is so spectacularly bad compared to the book I sometimes wonder if wasn t an intentional hit piece Sosee the movie if you will, but PLEASE, don t confuse it with or miss the book The book is or less a YA book then called a teen book , an easy and quick readand FAR FAR superior to the travesty of movie by the same name By the way, my late wife summed up a lot about the movie when she observed it should have been called, Bug Blasters Update They have been playing this thing the movie by the same name as this book on several TV channels lately AD NAUSEAMit seems to be on almost every time I check the listings on the idiot box So since there seems to be a new push to legitimize this grotesque cinematographic attempt at science fiction I m forced to revisit my review here Yes this is a YA or as it was called at the time a teen bookbut it s a good one Let me emphasize again, the movie doesn t even resemble the book except in that the enemy vaguely resembles the one in the book the movie uses 6 legged insect type life forms the book refers to them as arachnids giant spider life forms and they use some of the same character names But the world the novel takes place in, the actual characters, the nature of the government, the way the military worksit s all different, they even get the heart of the actual story wrong For that matter the relatively minor romance angle is as portrayed in the movie silly and will mislead The story in the book is peripheral and is to give insight into the world cosmos than to be a love story This movie is terrible, please don t confuse it with the book This is one of those movies that ticks me off in that I liked the book and this thing takes the book s title and gives us a perversion of that story 2 9 2018Okay time for another update.This has come up in the discussion of the book on in the Action Adventure Aficionados group and now in a comment here I m aware but didn t mention it in the review above The movie was actually an intentional hit piece by the movie maker He gave the book a Nazi look through his interpretation in the movie The government pictured by Heinlein in the book is Libertarian Everyone is free to live, do business etc as they choose The right to vote and send the military out however only rests in the hands of those who have themselves served in that kind of service thus the reasoning in the book that a panicked civilian can t order disastrous military action You may agree, you may disagree but it s not a government anything like the one in the ridiculous movie.


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    I first read Starship Troopers as an impressionable teenager My dad had a lot of SF books around the house, particularly Heinlein s, and I read most of them, except the especially sexy ones that he hid from me I read several of them later and hated them But that s a different story And I have vague memories of liking this book a lot So when I decided to reread it as an adult, I was expecting some old fashioned shoot up the aliens classic pulp SF, like, say, The Puppet Masters What I got was a lot of this Not much of this And you can forget about this Basically it s one long military lecture wrapped in a paper thin science fiction plot I was surprised by how little action there was, and how much pontificating on military strategy and training More than half of it reads like a textbook It s not as painfully tedious as the infamous 100 page John Galt lecture in Atlas Shrugged what is , but it s pretty bad unless you re actually interested in military theory, from a proponent s point of view.As many reviewers have mentioned, this is one of those cases where the book has virtually nothing in common with the movie, other than the name and a few basic plot details I m pretty certain that Heinlein is rolling in his grave over Paul Verhoeven s satirical treatment of his military screed.And I m still confused why Teenage Me thought this was a great book


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    Where do I even begin For starters, I should let the reader know that I m not basing my score on the politics of the book as laughable as I think they are but on the plot of the book, or rather the complete lack of a plot in the book While things do happen, some of them pretty big, Mr Heinlein has seen fit that we should not be party to any of those things Instead, he saves the most loving descriptions for daily life at boot camp Seventy, yes seventy, pages of a two hundred odd page book are dedicated to boot camp Within those pages we learn the importance of food, and being able to sleep in any condition Thrill to the excitment of marching into the middle of nowhere You will weep and wail along with the officers when you hear them lament the fact that they are compelled, nay forced, to flog their men when they misbehave Honestly, you could watch the beginning of Full Metal Jacket and skip reading that whole part and save yourself some time, and be entertained in the meantime Next you re treated to an extended flashback where a teacher who is quite obviously channelling the author lectures his students representing the reader about the major reason for the downfall of society in the past today What one overarching reason is responsible for the collapse of society Massive energy crisis Economic collapse Political anarchy WRONG It s because people listened to psychiatrists and didn t spank their children enough The secret to an orderly society is corporal punishment, and lots of it It does make me wonder about the particular proclivities of the author, but that s neither here nor there.So now that our main character, Johnny Rico, is a full fledged soldier we can finally get to some action after half the book is already finished, right No No, no, no, a thousand times no You will not see action in this book that is advertised to be about killing gigantic outer space bugs Instead, you will be treated to the doldrums of a soldier that isn t busy killing things Guard duty Sleeping Maintaining weapons and space armor Dinner and its various protocols Even his time off gets detail than all the fighting Rico participates in combined The typical description for a battle will go like this We dropped on this planet to smash things up Boy, what a mess that was This guy died These ones got hurt Then Rico goes to officer training school where we get detail about learning things And another lecture from another teacher to his students about why soldiers should be the only ones to handle government affairs Then we get told how battallions are broken down into platoons and squads and such forth Finally we get to the end which turns into one of the biggest anticlimaxes I ve ever had the misfortune of reading You ll get what feels like five hours of blabbing about setting up patrol and coordinates streamed endlessly at you, some thrilling detail on hypnotically suggested sleep, and then a blessed five seconds of actual confrontation with something Then it s over before you even know it started The end.I realize that the life of a soldier is probably pretty accurately portrayed in the book, days upon days of boring drudgery with a few moments of life and death craziness, but that doesn t necessarily make for a particularly interesting book At least not the way it s depicted here.Don t be fooled by the first ten pages of the book, which actually contain action than the other hundred and ninety What you re getting when you get this book is only one step away from a military training manual, only with some references to outer space and aliens tossed in along with a couple crazy rightwing ravings as the chocolatey syrup to go on top of the whole crappy sundae Don t fall for the hype, pass on this book.And yes, the movie is better It s stupid and fun The book is just stupid.


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    Starship Troopers, Robert A HeinleinStarship Troopers is a military science fiction novel by U.S writer Robert A Heinlein Written in a few weeks in reaction to the U.S suspending nuclear tests, the story was first published as a two part serial in The Magazine of Fantasy Science Fiction as Starship Soldier, and published as a book by G P Putnam s Sons in December 1959 The story is set in a future society ruled by a world government dominated by a military elite The first person narrative follows Juan Johnny Rico through his military service in the Mobile Infantry Rico progresses from recruit to officer against the backdrop of an interstellar war between humans and an alien species known as Arachnids or Bugs Interspersed with the primary plot are classroom scenes in which Rico and others discuss philosophical and moral issues, including aspects of suffrage, civic virtue, juvenile delinquency, and war these discussions have been described as expounding Heinlein s own political views Starship Troopers has been identified with a tradition of militarism in U.S science fiction, and draws parallels between the conflict between humans and the Bugs, and the Cold War A coming of age novel, Starship Troopers also critiques U.S society of the 1950s, argues that a lack of discipline had led to a moral decline, and advocates corporal and capital punishment 1998 1376 272 9649080406 1392 399 9786001191732 1959 1959


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    Find all of my reviews at Nothing of value is free Even the breath of life is purchased at birth only through gasping effort and pain Since NPH is one of the reasons Starship Troopers remains a favorite film of mine, I think I ll let him express my sentiments on the paper version I need to realize that sometimes it s okay to not read the book Starship Troopers is such a cult classic it s just soooooo bad that it somehow became great The book, on the other hand Well it clearly inspired the film, but it doesn t have the same style at all Translation the book is smart and while I was reading I was all like because I am stupid.Things I found enjoyable were as follows 1 The characters were from Terra Know who else is from Terra 2 There was plenty of world building Barely a grain of sand went without being described 3 In a roundabout way it was still a story of war with icky critters The bad It was boring We re talking a real snooze a rama The style was definitely love it or hate it and sadly I didn t love it I wanted this Instead, I got something that read like a futuristic military member s memoir And it wasn t even someone awesome like Captain Kirk or Picard it was like the life and styles of one Ensign Crusher Y all know what the reaction to that would be, right


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    Big nasty communist spiders are attacking Earth and all the planets it has colonized It s a battle between man and bug, and who is to save us I ll tell you who Guys with really fucking big guns, that s who With spacesuits that make it so they can jump over buildings, and deflect bullets, and drop from spaceships to the surface of planets without getting hurt That s who These guys get dropped onto planets with their spacesuits and their big guns, and they can incinerate some little brown people like you wouldn t believe, then they can leave without a single casualty This is who is gonna fuck up the big spiders AMERICA, FUCK YEAH COMING TO SAVE THE MOTHERFUCKING DAYAY That s yer plot, other than experiencing the trials and tribulations of boot camp through the eyes of a protagonist who spends quite a bit of time philosophising about society and politics and all that good stuff And this MIGHT make it sound like I DIDN T like the book That would be entirely wrong.This book is so vivid, and so passionate, in its description of what it is like to be in this army that I couldn t help but be sucked in completely It s an easy, quick, fun read, and it s passionate in its monologues about how society should be I loved the sections where he s explaining his moral sentiments since I ve never understood how someone could join an army and go kill people without questioning the motives of the war itself Personally, whenever I kill someone, I like to know the reason I m doing it But it truly is a different way of looking at ethics, isn t it Mr Protagonist believes that only those who have fought and risked everything for their nation should be considered full citizens, because they were willing to sacrifice everything for the sake of their nation I can see how someone with a fairly black and white view of reality might think this makes sense But By fighting in a war you are condoning a war This means that if the war is ethically wrong, you are doing something ethically reprehensible So shouldn t it matter what the war is about I know I m arguing with a dead guy It s my review, and I ll argue with a dead guy if I want to Heinlein s protagonist also makes an argument about the prison system and how it doesn t actually reform those who do time I totally agree with him here Somehow he tries to equate this with an argument that you MUST spank children for them to have a sense of responsibility Uhh, yeah, back to symbolic logic class with you, Bob But moving onI found it quite interesting how dualistic our protagonist s thinking is when it comes to ALL PEOPLE F rinstance, you can t trust a civilian to do a job that requires fighting spirit women are good pilots, all seem to have great smiles, and they re the reason men fight gay men apparently don t exist in this world , but women don t get to fight Bugs wearing those cool spacesuits because, well, they re all sexy and small and fragile and stuff Then, within the military, the guys who haven t made a jump are lesser than those who have, Protagonist s peeps look down on the Navy and get in fights with them, etc He does have a name, but it s a boring one I prefer calling him Protagonist But then I started wondering if this kind of attitude is necessary for the military to function I m too skeptical to EVER join the military, and that has nothing to do with fighting spirit But maybe, in order to do what they do, soldiers HAVE to feel like they re the best of the best, doing the best thing that could ever be done with their life Otherwise, they wouldn t be able to motivate themselves to jump out of the spaceship and kill the spiders, or guard the border against Mexicans, or defuse bombs in Baghdad, or whatever else might get them killed So, reading this book got me thinking about the mindset of this protagonist, and thinking about the soldiers and marines I ve known, andwellmaybe as much as I disagree with this mindset, perhaps it s a necessary mindset for someone in the military And we need a military So maybe we need some people who think in this dualistic way Anyway, this is what Starship Troopers got me thinking about Part of this Heinlein can take credit for if this book is any indication, he was than willing to speak his mind, and he clearly had a lot of ideas These rambling monologues where Heinlein was channeled through his protagonist were just as entertaining, if not so, than the soldiers vs bugs part of the story Then again, I m horribly entertained by Sarah Palin s political career, and occasionally read snippets of Ann Coulter s books because her anger is funny If that doesn t sound like you, you might just find Heinlein s politics annoying But I was quite diverted, and I ll be reading Heinlein soon There s some contention on Goodreads about whether or not this is the case, but the way I interpreted the book is that you can only vote if you ve joined the military although you might not have seen combat depending on the job you ended up with But you were WILLING to go into combat since the military assigned you your job and you didn t get to choose So you must ve been WILLING to be a soldier if you want to vote So pthbthbthbth


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    If you re into stuff like this, you can read the full review.Word of warning I m going to discourse both on the book and on the Verhoeven s movie.He didn t include them as grunts probably because the training was sufficiently hard that most wouldn t have made it If you read the description of the training it wasn t just 12 weeks square bashing, it reads far like Special Forces.It might also have been because he was paying lip service to a society kind of modelled on 50s America where the ladies were the home makers and females in the frontline weren t even on the radar.However, having said that, we have the fabulous line about females in high rank and esteem If the Almighty ever needs a hand to run the universe hot ship pilot Yvette Deladrier after Starship commander Deladrier brakes her ship s orbit to recover a lander that has blasted off late and which otherwise would miss rendezvous and all on board would perish I ve heard from a lot of my friends saying the movie version is utter shit I m not so sure The thing is, Verhoeven was a master of taking existing texts and subtly pushing them into satire by overdoing Hollywood MTV filming tropes The viewer was encouraged to look at the films as broad entertainment and then ask what the actions of the heroes had to do with American culture He did the same with Joe Eszterhas s scripts for Basic Instinct and Showgirls Basic Instinct is a detective story where the hero is someone who s already gotten away with murder because of his badge, and who shoots another innocent victim before the film is out, while the villain is never actually shown to kill anyone She s chiefly a suspect because of her sexuality which is why GLAAD picketed the film and lack of shame about it Showgirls meanwhile depicts a vision of Las Vegas as a patriarchal dystopia where every woman is judged on her body and literally every male character is a predator of some kind If you re into SF, read on.